I can get the client loaded but it will not run without razor while on the flip side I can also get razor to halfway download then I get some" parcel error" message that will not allow me to finish loading. It says a small message like I need windows 2.0 downloaded but I cannot even get that to work. I should never have tried to patch into Zenvera. I uninstalled the client and never could get it back after that. I took it to a few people but they were as clueless as me on what was wrong....and I am completly clueless with computers. I mean I still to this day have no idea how to post pictures in forums.